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John Patrick Ryan

John Patrick Ryan

Male 1851 - 1890  (38 years)

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  • Name John Patrick Ryan 
    Born 1852  Cardiff, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Christened 21 Aug 1852  Cardiff Metropolitan Cathedral, Cardiff, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Occupation 1871  Cardiff, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Ship carpenter 
    Occupation 1881  Penarth, Glamorgan, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Shipwright - one who builds and repairs ships and boats 
    Died 27 Feb 1890  Cardiff Infirmary, Newport Rd, Cardiff, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I49  Penarth Ryans | Christopher Hendra, John Patrick Ryan, Paul Michell, Samuel Thomas
    Last Modified 8 Feb 2016 

    Father Edmund Ryan,   b. 1827, Clonakilty, West Cork, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 21 Jan 1875, 48 Mary Ann Street, Cardiff, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 48 years) 
    Mother Catherine Keoghan,   b. 1826, Dunworley, West Cork, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1914, Cardiff, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 88 years) 
    Married 7 Sept 1850  St David's Chapel, David Street, Cardiff, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Notes 
    Married:
    • St David's Chapel originally in St David's Street Cardiff, Wales, UK is now the Roman Catholic St. David's Metropolitan RC Cathedral and sited on Charles Street, Cardiff. Witnesses were James Barry (Catherine's mother was Mary Barry, so perhaps an uncle?) and David Scannell
    Documents
    Marriage Certificate, Edward Ryan-Catherine Keoghan, 1850
    Marriage Certificate, Edward Ryan-Catherine Keoghan, 1850
    Marriage certificate for Edward (Edmund) Ryan and Catherine Keoghan (Kohawn?) dated 7 Sept 1850 - St David's Chapel, David Street, Cardiff. This chapel became the Metropolitan R C Cathedral for Cardiff. Interesting to see them signing with an 'X'.

    This certificate is also very important as it's the first documentary evidence we have that Edward (Edmund) Ryan's father was called Patrick. Jane's [Alspach]Family Tree dated 1995 suggests that Edmund's father was called Patrick, now we have the evidence. [L. Ryan 12/22/2009]
    Family ID F10  Group Sheet

    Family Amelia Thomas,   b. 1850, Phillack, Cornwall, England, UK Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Dec 1888  (Age 39 years) 
    Married 26 Aug 1875  St Peter's Church, City Road, Cardiff, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Type: Rites and Ceremonies of the Roman Catholic Church 
    Children 
    +1. Amelia [Milly] Ryan,   b. 1876, Cogan, Penarth, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1930  (Age 54 years)
    +2. Catherine [Cassie] Ryan,   b. 03 Jul 1877, Penarth, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 05 May 1974, Alexandria Hospital [New], Alexandria, VA, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 96 years)
    +3. Sarah Jane [Janie] Ryan,   b. 1879, Cogan, Penarth, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1963  (Age 84 years)
     4. Sarah Ryan,   b. 1879, Penarth, Glamorgan, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1879, Penarth, Glamorgan, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 0 years)
     5. Ellen [Nell] Ryan,   b. 25 Nov 1880, Penarth, Glamorgan, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 06 Sep 1958, Alexandria, VA, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 77 years)
    +6. Edward (Eddie) Ryan,   b. 1883, Cogan, Penarth, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1949, Penarth, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 66 years)
    +7. John (Jack) Ryan,   b. 9 April 1884/5, Cogan, Penarth, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 27 Feb 1969, Penarth, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 83 years)
     8. Samuel Ryan,   b. 1888, Cogan, Penarth, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jun 1888, Cogan, Penarth, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 0 years)
    Photos
    Interior St. Peter's Catholic Church, Cardiff, Wales, ca. 1870
    Interior St. Peter's Catholic Church, Cardiff, Wales, ca. 1870
    John Ryan and Amelia Thomas were married here Aug 26, 1875.

    This is the Church in which John and Amelia were married in 1875. It is the oldest Catholic Church in Cardiff and situated on St Peter's Road, Roath, Cardiff. Aunt Mary told me that she thought that no one from either family attended the service as Amelia was Wesleyan Methodist and she was marrying into the Roman Catholic faith. Amelia (Thomas) is listed as living in 44 Parade Cardiff - this is one block away from St Peter's Church. [L. Ryan 12/22/2009]
    St. Peter's Catholic Church, Cardiff, Wales, Exterior, ca. 1970
    St. Peter's Catholic Church, Cardiff, Wales, Exterior, ca. 1970
    John Patrick Ryan and Amelia Thomas were married here Aug 26, 1875.

    This is the Church in which John and Amelia were married in 1875. It is the oldest Catholic Church in Cardiff and situated on St Peter's Road, Roath, Cardiff. Aunt Mary told me that she thought that no one from either family attended the service as Amelia was Wesleyan Methodist and she was marrying into the Roman Catholic faith. Amelia (Thomas) is listed as living in 44 Parade Cardiff - this is one block away from St Peter's Church. [L.Ryan 12/22/2009]
    Amelia and John Patrick Ryan
    Amelia and John Patrick Ryan
    Nick Bradley owns the attached photo which was passed on from his mother Millie Ryan Bradley. No names on the back, but our collective best guess is that this is a photo of the young Ryan couple John Patrick and Amelia sometime in the 1880s. The pose is typically Victorian - no smiles and very serious poses in Sunday best clothes. [L. Ryan 11/19/2009]
    The photo has been professionally restored. Aunt Mary Ryan Taylor, who never met them of course, says that there are remarkable family resemblances. She also thought this photo may well be a wedding photo which would date it at 1875. The young couple are certainly in their finest clothes. If it is a wedding photo Amelia would be 25 and John Patrick 23. [L. Ryan 11/23/2010]
    Documents
    Marriage Certificate, John and Amelia Ryan, 1875
    Marriage Certificate, John and Amelia Ryan, 1875
    Last Modified 22 Jan 2015 
    Family ID F11  Group Sheet

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 1852 - Cardiff, Wales, UK Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChristened - 21 Aug 1852 - Cardiff Metropolitan Cathedral, Cardiff, Wales, UK Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Ship carpenter - 1871 - Cardiff, Wales, UK Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - Type: Rites and Ceremonies of the Roman Catholic Church - 26 Aug 1875 - St Peter's Church, City Road, Cardiff, Wales, UK Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Shipwright - one who builds and repairs ships and boats - 1881 - Penarth, Glamorgan, Wales, UK Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 27 Feb 1890 - Cardiff Infirmary, Newport Rd, Cardiff, Wales, UK Link to Google Earth
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  • Photos
    Saint Augustine's Church, Penarth, Wales, UK
    Saint Augustine's Church, Penarth, Wales, UK
    St Augustine's Parish Church, Penarth, again mentioned in Aunt Mary's 'Brief History' - family graves Jane and Samuel Thomas and, of course, Amelia and John Patrick Ryan - plus more maybe - not sure. Also the venue for the 2000 Ryan reunion celebration service and probably a lot more - I'll check this with Mary - I suspect that she and Tom were married there. [L. Ryan 4/1/2010]

    * Burial of Jane and Sam Thomas
    * Burial of Amelia and John Ryan
    * Funeral of Sam Thomas JP ( Sam Thomas organised the 1914 Garden Party)
    * Marriage of Annie Thomas and Ike Greatrix
    * Marriage of Mary Ryan and Tom Taylor
    * Funeral of Louisa Ann Ryan
    * Confirmation of Leslie and Stephen Ryan
    * Sidney Ryan was 'captain of the sidesmen'
    * Enid Ryan was enrolling member of the Mothers Union
    * Leslie Ryan was organist
    * Stephen Ryan was a bell ringer and altar server
    * Venue for 2000 Ryan reunion service
    [L. Ryan 4/14/2010]
    Amelia and John Patrick Ryan
    Amelia and John Patrick Ryan
    Nick Bradley owns the attached photo which was passed on from his mother Millie Ryan Bradley. No names on the back, but our collective best guess is that this is a photo of the young Ryan couple John Patrick and Amelia sometime in the 1880s. The pose is typically Victorian - no smiles and very serious poses in Sunday best clothes. [L. Ryan 11/19/2009]
    The photo has been professionally restored. Aunt Mary Ryan Taylor, who never met them of course, says that there are remarkable family resemblances. She also thought this photo may well be a wedding photo which would date it at 1875. The young couple are certainly in their finest clothes. If it is a wedding photo Amelia would be 25 and John Patrick 23. [L. Ryan 11/23/2010]
    31 Dock Street, Cogan, Penarth, Wales, UK
    31 Dock Street, Cogan, Penarth, Wales, UK
    Two more pics for the site - this time the small terraced home in Dock Street Cogan, Penarth where John and Amelia Ryan set up home in 1875 - he was 22 and she was 24. Eight children were born to them - two died young; Sarah in 1879 and Samuel in 1888 - it is highly likely that Amelia never recovered from the birth and early death of Samuel (registered death as 0 months old) - she died within six months of Samuel's birth. Then tragically John died two years later from an accident at work resulting in a tetanus infection. Six Ryan children were orphaned.
    Mary Ann Street, Cardiff, Wales, ca 1893
    Mary Ann Street, Cardiff, Wales, ca 1893
    The street where Edmund and Catherine Ryan kept the Maid of Erin pub and boarding house. The old buildings have now gone and made way for the Cardiff International Arena and the Park Inn Hotel
    Mary Ann Street in Cardiff - where Edmund and Catherine Ryan kept the Maid of Erin Pub and boarding house in the 19th century
    Mary Ann Street in Cardiff - where Edmund and Catherine Ryan kept the Maid of Erin Pub and boarding house in the 19th century
    Mary Ann Street today has the Cardiff International Arena and the Park Inn Hotel. All the old 19th century buildings have gone.
    Beach Road Penarth in the 1900s - 1910s
    Beach Road Penarth in the 1900s - 1910s
    The entrance to Alexandra Park from Beach Road, Penarth. Photo ca 1900s - 1910s - a park that must have been well known to all residents in Penarth. Alexandra Park, Penarth is a well-preserved Edwardian urban public park. It is in an attractive location overlooking the Bristol Channel, retaining its layout and many of its original features. The park was laid out quickly between 1901 and 1902.
    Penarth Boathouse, ca 1900
    Penarth Boathouse, ca 1900
    Penarth Boathouse on the Esplanade. Ca 1900
    Windsor Road, Penarth ca 1908
    Windsor Road, Penarth ca 1908
    Windsor Road, Penarth ca 1908 - the principal road running from Cogan (where our 'Founding Family' of Ryans lived) to Penarth. The main shops were and are located here. The road continues as Windsor Terrace and then into Beach Road which leads to the Esplanade.
    Penarth Docks
    Penarth Docks
    Penarth Docks at the height of its importance ca. 1900. John Patrick Ryan (1852-90) worked there as a shipwright and it was there that he probably sustained the injury that led to tetanus resulting from a deep cut or wound which led to his early death at the age of 38. The six Ryan children were orphaned.
    John Patrick Ryan ca 1875
    John Patrick Ryan ca 1875
    John Patrick Ryan ca 1875, possibly a wedding photo
    Amelia Thomas Ryan ca 1875
    Amelia Thomas Ryan ca 1875
    Amelia Thomas Ryan ca 1875, possibly a wedding photo

    Documents
    1881 Wales Census, Handwritten
    1881 Wales Census, Handwritten
    Showing the John Patrick Ryan family at 31 Dock Street, Cogan, Penarth
    John Patrick Ryan, 1852-90. Report of death
    John Patrick Ryan, 1852-90. Report of death
    Western Mail 01 Mar 1890 reports John Patrick Ryan's death at Cardiff Royal Infirmary, from lockjaw as a result of an accident at work in Penarth Docks where a fellow workman inadvertently hit John Patrick's little finger with a hammer. He died from a tetanus infection on 27 Feb 1890 leaving the six young Ryan children as orphans
    Death from Lockjaw - John Patrick Ryan 1852-1890
    Death from Lockjaw - John Patrick Ryan 1852-1890
    Cardiff Times 8 March 1890

    Histories
    The Irish in Cardiff in the Nineteenth Century
    The Irish in Cardiff in the Nineteenth Century
    A brief history of the Irish in Cardiff in the 19th century extracted from the writings of Owen John Thomas and first published in The Green Dragon edition 1 Winter 1996. Footnotes added by Les Ryan

  • Notes 
    • John was a shipwright[carpenter] He died in 1890 aged 38 when tetanus set in following an accident at work. His wife Amelia had died two years earlier following complications in childbirth. The orphaned children: Catherine, Jane, Ellen, Edward and John were taken in by Samuel and Jane Thomas who lived in 5 Salop Place, Penarth, Wales, UK. They were the children's maternal grandparents. The Ryan side of the family were unable to help as they were running the public house and boarding house, The Maid of Erin, 48 Mary Ann Street, Cardiff, Wales, UK.
    • Married in September 1875

    Died:
    • John Patrick died from a tetanus infection sustained from an injury at work