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John  (Jack) Ryan

John (Jack) Ryan

Male 1885 - 1969  (83 years)

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  • Name John (Jack) Ryan 
    Nickname Jack 
    Born 9 April 1884/5  Cogan, Penarth, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Occupation 1901  Penarth, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    messenger for the railway company (Great Western) 
    Occupation 1911  Northcliffe, Penarth Docks, Penarth, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Dock labourer and coal tipper 
    Residence 31 Dock Street, Cogan, Penarth,, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    First home for the Ryan family: Amelia, Catherine, Sarah, Jane, Ellen, Edward and John (Jack)
     
    Age: 28 
    Ryan Family 1881 Wales Census
    Ryan Family 1881 Wales Census
    Residence 1911  33 Dock Street, Cogan, Penarth, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family home for the young family 
    Died 27 Feb 1969  Penarth, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I54  Penarth Ryans | Christopher Hendra, John Patrick Ryan, Paul Michell, Samuel Thomas
    Last Modified 13 Aug 2017 

    Father John Patrick Ryan,   b. 1852, Cardiff, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 27 Feb 1890, Cardiff Infirmary, Newport Rd, Cardiff, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 38 years) 
    Relationship Birth 
    Mother Amelia Thomas,   b. 1850, Phillack, Cornwall, England, UK Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Dec 1888  (Age 39 years) 
    Relationship Birth 
    Married 26 Aug 1875  St Peter's Church, City Road, Cardiff, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Photos
    Interior St. Peter's Catholic Church, Cardiff, Wales, ca. 1870
    Interior St. Peter's Catholic Church, Cardiff, Wales, ca. 1870
    John Ryan and Amelia Thomas were married here Aug 26, 1875.

    This is the Church in which John and Amelia were married in 1875. It is the oldest Catholic Church in Cardiff and situated on St Peter's Road, Roath, Cardiff. Aunt Mary told me that she thought that no one from either family attended the service as Amelia was Wesleyan Methodist and she was marrying into the Roman Catholic faith. Amelia (Thomas) is listed as living in 44 Parade Cardiff - this is one block away from St Peter's Church. [L. Ryan 12/22/2009]
    St. Peter's Catholic Church, Cardiff, Wales, Exterior, ca. 1970
    St. Peter's Catholic Church, Cardiff, Wales, Exterior, ca. 1970
    John Patrick Ryan and Amelia Thomas were married here Aug 26, 1875.

    This is the Church in which John and Amelia were married in 1875. It is the oldest Catholic Church in Cardiff and situated on St Peter's Road, Roath, Cardiff. Aunt Mary told me that she thought that no one from either family attended the service as Amelia was Wesleyan Methodist and she was marrying into the Roman Catholic faith. Amelia (Thomas) is listed as living in 44 Parade Cardiff - this is one block away from St Peter's Church. [L.Ryan 12/22/2009]
    Amelia and John Patrick Ryan
    Amelia and John Patrick Ryan
    Nick Bradley owns the attached photo which was passed on from his mother Millie Ryan Bradley. No names on the back, but our collective best guess is that this is a photo of the young Ryan couple John Patrick and Amelia sometime in the 1880s. The pose is typically Victorian - no smiles and very serious poses in Sunday best clothes. [L. Ryan 11/19/2009]
    The photo has been professionally restored. Aunt Mary Ryan Taylor, who never met them of course, says that there are remarkable family resemblances. She also thought this photo may well be a wedding photo which would date it at 1875. The young couple are certainly in their finest clothes. If it is a wedding photo Amelia would be 25 and John Patrick 23. [L. Ryan 11/23/2010]
    Documents
    Marriage Certificate, John and Amelia Ryan, 1875
    Marriage Certificate, John and Amelia Ryan, 1875
    Family ID F11  Group Sheet

    Family Minnie Hart Watts,   b. 1889, Roath, Cardiff, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married Jul 1907 
    Children 
    +1. Jack Ryan,   b. 1907, Penarth, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1983, Penarth, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 76 years)
    +2. Thomas Ryan,   b. 20 Feb 1910, Penarth, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1996, Cardiff, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 85 years)
    +3. Glyn Ryan,   b. 17 Apr 1916, Penarth, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 19 Jun 1994, Penarth, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 78 years)
     4. Peter Ryan,   b. 1917, Penarth, Glamorgan, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 12 Feb 1941, World War II - S.S. Shrewsbury Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 24 years)
    +5. Eileen Ryan,   b. 25 Jan 1921, Penarth, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 18 Jan 2010, Keswick, Cumbria, England, UK Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 88 years)
    +6. Living
     7. Jean Ryan,   b. 1923, Penarth, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1923, Penarth, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 0 years)
    +8. Living
    +9. Joseph Ryan,   b. 26 May 1930, Penarth, Wales, UK Find all individuals with events at this location
    Last Modified 14 Apr 2011 
    Family ID F31  Group Sheet

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 9 April 1884/5 - Cogan, Penarth, Wales, UK Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - messenger for the railway company (Great Western) - 1901 - Penarth, Wales, UK Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Dock labourer and coal tipper - 1911 - Northcliffe, Penarth Docks, Penarth, UK Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - Family home for the young family - 1911 - 33 Dock Street, Cogan, Penarth, UK Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 27 Feb 1969 - Penarth, Wales, UK Link to Google Earth
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  • Photos
    Llandough Church ~ St. Dochdwy
    Llandough Church ~ St. Dochdwy
    Reading through Aunt Mary's History today I noticed that we do not have a photo of Llandough Church ~ St. Dochdwy, where my grandparents Edward Ryan and Louisa Ann Dibble were married in 1905. It's a small country church on the outskirts of Penarth and would have been the parish church for Louisa. Eddie's younger brother John Ryan was Best Man.
    Albert Road School, Penarth, Wales, UK
    Albert Road School, Penarth, Wales, UK
    Albert Road School which is just around the corner from 5 Salop Place home to the orphaned Ryan children and their local school. Aunt Mary's 'Brief History' mentions that they attended this school. Actually, I recall a lane at the back of the school which led into Salop Place. Stephen and I were pupils there - what a shame I had no idea then that my grandfather and great aunts and uncle also attended back in the 1900s. [L. Ryan 4/1/2010]

    Aunt Mary has confirmed that:
    * The orphaned Ryan children attended this school: Catherine, Jane, Ellen, Eddie and Jack Ryan
    * Eddie Ryan's children attended - Milly, George, Sidney and Mary Ryan
    * Jack Ryan's children attended - John, Tom, Glyn, Peter, Eileen, Jim, Colleen and Joe Ryan
    * Sid Ryan's children attended - Les and Stephen
    [L. Ryan 4/14/2010]
    Jack Ryan, ca 1905
    Jack Ryan, ca 1905
    Jack Ryan with Robert James Ryan, ca 1950
    Jack Ryan with Robert James Ryan, ca 1950
    31 Dock Street, Cogan, Penarth, Wales, UK
    31 Dock Street, Cogan, Penarth, Wales, UK
    Two more pics for the site - this time the small terraced home in Dock Street Cogan, Penarth where John and Amelia Ryan set up home in 1875 - he was 22 and she was 24. Eight children were born to them - two died young; Sarah in 1879 and Samuel in 1888 - it is highly likely that Amelia never recovered from the birth and early death of Samuel (registered death as 0 months old) - she died within six months of Samuel's birth. Then tragically John died two years later from an accident at work resulting in a tetanus infection. Six Ryan children were orphaned.
    5 Salop Place, Penarth, Wales, UK
    5 Salop Place, Penarth, Wales, UK
    Thomas family home to orphaned Ryan children. Samuel and Jane Thomas were the Ryan children's maternal grandparents. The couple took in the children after the death of their father, John Patrick in 1890 from a tetanus wound sustained at work in Penarth Docks. The childrens' mother, Amelia had died just over a year before.
    Jack Ryan, about age 20, 1905
    Jack Ryan, about age 20, 1905

    Documents
    1891 Wales Census, Handwritten
    1891 Wales Census, Handwritten
    1891 Wales Census Extract
    1891 Wales Census Extract
    Ryan Ancestry, St. Donat's Castle, Wales [PDF opens in new window]
    Ryan Ancestry, St. Donat's Castle, Wales [PDF opens in new window]
    An ancestry from the founding family of the Penarth Ryans which leads right back into the 13th century and the owners and Lords of the Manor of St Donat's Castle. [V3] [L. Ryan 3/14/2011]

  • Notes 
    • In 1911 Jack Ryan was listed in th Census as being a dock labourer and coal tipper. He resides with his wife and young family at 33 Dock Road Penarth, Wales, UK.